Bones
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Alright, So after speaking with Matt about Tanks and certain problems they cause.
I spoke to him about a server that I believe still exists, (I'm not sure if it does). I explained to him how in this server, They averaged 80 or more players a day including week days. They had aircraft, combat aircraft, and they have a numerous amount of tanks and IFVS/LAVs and to your surprise. It caused no lag for the server, There'd be 5-6 tanks in battle, humvees and IFVs, Logisitic trucks and helicopters all out in the field at once while 80 or more players played the server. This server is called Civil Gamers WW3. I managed to find which tanks they were using and compile them into a small content pack.
It was nice to hear that Matt actually wanted to add tanks to the server as well.
This pack has a total of about 600 megabytes.
Now below you'll find videos and screenshots of these tanks and how they work and operate.
Just how we had multiple helicopters I'm hoping we have multiple tank variants for different purposes.
We'll start with the LAVs/IFVs.
Below you'll see the 2 US Vehicles
M21A1 Thor
M2 Bradley
And you'll see the Russian
BTR80
BTR80A
BMP-2
https://youtu.be/ZoQ56J0Jwlk
Now with these here you'll notice the Russian ones are weaker, (Obviously) however for gameplay and fairness, They can be edited to be stronger if not equal to their American Counterparts.
Now below you'll see 6 tanks, 3 American. 3 Russian.
Starting from the weakest on both sides.
Russian T-72
vs
German Leopard 2A7
Next you'll see the
Russian T-90
vs
American M1A1 Abrams
Finally you'll see
Russian T14 Armata
vs
M1A2 Sep V2 Abrams
https://youtu.be/t26RPVg3aME
As you will see in these videos the tanks are fairly balanced but could use some tweaking here and there.
All these vehicles can be killed by RPG-7 and The M72 LAW from the arcCW pack.
Now if these were to be implemented into the server, They would 2 Armored divisions.
For the U.S
1st Armored Division "Old Ironsides"
The 1st Armored Division, nicknamed "Old Ironsides", is a combined arms division of the United States Army. The division is part of III Armored Corps and operates out of Fort Bliss in El Paso, Texas. It was the first armored division of the United States' Army to see battle in World War II.
Classes and what they'd need.
REMINDER THIS IS AN ARMORED DIVISON, NOT FRONTLINE TROOPS. HENCE THE LACK OF PRIMARY WEAPONRY.
Commander Class: Leads The Faction
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Primary Weapon : arccw_mw3e_mp5
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Mechanic Class : Focuses On Repairing Vehicles
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Driver Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Driver
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Gunner Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Main Gunner
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Playmodels can be determined by staff
For The Russians
4th Guard Tank Division
The 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Order of Lenin Red Banner Tank Division, is a Guards armoured division of the Russian Ground Forces. It is named after Yuri Andropov. It has the Military Unit Number 19612 and is one of the key formations of the Western Military District.
Classes and what they'd need.
REMINDER THIS IS AN ARMORED DIVISON, NOT FRONTLINE TROOPS. HENCE THE LACK OF PRIMARY WEAPONRY.
Commander Class: Leads The Faction
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Primary Weapon : arccw_mw3e_pp90m1
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Mechanic Class : Focuses On Repairing Vehicles
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Driver Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Driver
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Gunner Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Main Gunner
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Playmodels can be determined by staff
Rules For Tanks Should Be As Follows :
12. All vehicle classes have a cooldown based on their ranking.
I spoke to him about a server that I believe still exists, (I'm not sure if it does). I explained to him how in this server, They averaged 80 or more players a day including week days. They had aircraft, combat aircraft, and they have a numerous amount of tanks and IFVS/LAVs and to your surprise. It caused no lag for the server, There'd be 5-6 tanks in battle, humvees and IFVs, Logisitic trucks and helicopters all out in the field at once while 80 or more players played the server. This server is called Civil Gamers WW3. I managed to find which tanks they were using and compile them into a small content pack.
It was nice to hear that Matt actually wanted to add tanks to the server as well.
This pack has a total of about 600 megabytes.
Now below you'll find videos and screenshots of these tanks and how they work and operate.
Just how we had multiple helicopters I'm hoping we have multiple tank variants for different purposes.
M21A1 Thor - IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle)
M2 Bradley - IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle)
BTR80 - APC (Assault Personnel Carrier)
BTR80A - IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle)
BMP - 2 IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle)
All Tanks will be Classed as MBT (Main Battle Tank)
We'll start with the LAVs/IFVs.
Below you'll see the 2 US Vehicles
M21A1 Thor
M2 Bradley
And you'll see the Russian
BTR80
BTR80A
BMP-2
https://youtu.be/ZoQ56J0Jwlk
Now with these here you'll notice the Russian ones are weaker, (Obviously) however for gameplay and fairness, They can be edited to be stronger if not equal to their American Counterparts.
Now below you'll see 6 tanks, 3 American. 3 Russian.
Starting from the weakest on both sides.
Russian T-72
vs
German Leopard 2A7
Next you'll see the
Russian T-90
vs
American M1A1 Abrams
Finally you'll see
Russian T14 Armata
vs
M1A2 Sep V2 Abrams
https://youtu.be/t26RPVg3aME
As you will see in these videos the tanks are fairly balanced but could use some tweaking here and there.
All these vehicles can be killed by RPG-7 and The M72 LAW from the arcCW pack.
Now if these were to be implemented into the server, They would 2 Armored divisions.
For the U.S
1st Armored Division "Old Ironsides"
The 1st Armored Division, nicknamed "Old Ironsides", is a combined arms division of the United States Army. The division is part of III Armored Corps and operates out of Fort Bliss in El Paso, Texas. It was the first armored division of the United States' Army to see battle in World War II.
Classes and what they'd need.
REMINDER THIS IS AN ARMORED DIVISON, NOT FRONTLINE TROOPS. HENCE THE LACK OF PRIMARY WEAPONRY.
Commander Class: Leads The Faction
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Primary Weapon : arccw_mw3e_mp5
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Mechanic Class : Focuses On Repairing Vehicles
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Driver Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Driver
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Gunner Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Main Gunner
Secondary Weapon : arccw_mw2_m9
Playmodels can be determined by staff
For The Russians
4th Guard Tank Division
The 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Order of Lenin Red Banner Tank Division, is a Guards armoured division of the Russian Ground Forces. It is named after Yuri Andropov. It has the Military Unit Number 19612 and is one of the key formations of the Western Military District.
Classes and what they'd need.
REMINDER THIS IS AN ARMORED DIVISON, NOT FRONTLINE TROOPS. HENCE THE LACK OF PRIMARY WEAPONRY.
Commander Class: Leads The Faction
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Primary Weapon : arccw_mw3e_pp90m1
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Mechanic Class : Focuses On Repairing Vehicles
Vehicle Repair Tool : weapon_simrepair
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Driver Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Driver
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Gunner Class : Designated Tank/IFV/LAV Main Gunner
Secondary Weapon : arccw_bo1_makarov
Playmodels can be determined by staff
Rules For Tanks Should Be As Follows :
1. Tanks can only be repaired in base, If out in the field and tank is damaged. You can only repair it when out of combat, But only repair 500 health. Enough to return to base and finish full repairs.
2. MBTs (Main Battle Tanks) Can only be used when 15 or more enemies are online. (Exception, Your team is outnumbered by more than 7 players)
3. LAVS/IFVS Can only be used when 8 or more enemies are online. (Exception, Your team is outnumbered by more than 5 players)
4. In cases which the enemy is outnumbered, And they spawn a tank/IFV. If you're on the team with higher numbers, You can NOT spawn a tank to counter theirs. Have infantry and/or CAS deal with it.
5. 2 or more MBTs (Main Battle Tanks) can only be used when 25 or more enemies are online. (No exception)
6. 2 or more LAVS/IFVS Can only be used when 15 or more enemies are online (No exception)
7. Only members of the Armored division can drive the tank and use it main gun. (Same rules apply or IFVs/LAVs/APCs)
8. Armored division recruits are to be whitelisted to the Mechanic Class only. Driver class and Gunner class will need to be rank based and tryout hosted.
9. No solo tanking. Meaning if you're armored division only has 1 member online. You cannot use an MBT or an IFV/LAV/APC.
10. When using MBTs, Minimum of 2 crew is required at all times. Preferably 3.
11. When using IFVs/LAVs/APCs, Minimum of 2 crew is required at all times.
12. All vehicle classes have a cooldown based on their ranking.
Cooldowns are as follows
M21A1 Thor - Cooldown 5 minutes
M2 Bradley - Cooldown 5 minutes
BTR80 - Cooldown 5 minutes
BTR80A - Cooldown 5 minutes
BMP-2 - Cooldown 5 minutes
Leopard 2A7 - Cooldown 10 minutes
T-70 - Cooldown 10 minutes
M1A1 Abrams - Cooldown 15 minutes
T-90 - Cooldown 15 minutes
M1A2 Sep V2 Abrams - Cooldown 20 minutes
T14 Armata - Cooldown 20 minutes.
These cooldowns are not for individual players. It's for the faction as a whole.
This is all I have for rules as of right now.
So in regards to the vehicles, They can be editted to be balanced.
They are killable by aircraft and RPGs.
They do NOT lag servers, If the server is lagging (probably the server itself)
These tanks are the nicest shittiest tanks we can get that meet the requirement of space, balance and no lag.
I've tested them all, I've used them in live servers that average far more players than us. They do work, and do not cause lag.
I implore you to give this a chance. If it doesn't work it can always be removed.
Again if you have questions, My discord is thelordbones and I'll keep an eye on this form.
EDIT: HERE'S THE PACK https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3024313553
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